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16 posts from March 2008

March 24, 2008

eBay forcing sellers to specify shipping or use calculator

Kristina Klausen announced today that starting immediately eBay will require new sellers to specify S+H costs and then in the 'coming months' will require this from all sellers.  I totally get this from the buyer's perspective.

There are so many problems with this from a seller's perspective it's not even funny.

  • The eBay Shipping Calculator is a closed system with no access for third parties.  There are no APIs.
  • The eBay shipping calculator is USPS/UPS only.  Many top sellers prefer Fedex or DHL as their shipping carrier.
  • Thus sellers that use third parties (yes, like ChannelAdvisor) or don't ship exclusively with USPS/UPS are forced to implement flat-rate shipping.
  • For larger items (let's say a golf club), flat-rate shipping is MORE EXPENSIVE for most buyers because the seller has to look at their best case and worst case zone scenarios and price the flat-rate accordingly.

Thus eBay is implementing a policy that is going to reduce buyer flexibility AND seller flexibility while effectively causing higher shipping costs.

Wait, who wins in this?

eBay has 1ยข listing sale - throws a bone for auction traditionalists?

Today Stephanie Tilenius (who will be speaking at our upcoming Catalyst conference next week!) announced a one penny listing promo today.  There are several criteria, including:

  • Must start the item at .99
  • Must have DSRs > 4.5 (12 month rating, not 30-day)
  • You have to have fixed-rate shipping specified or use the ebay shipping calculator (blech!)

This is an unusually long promotion running a week (starts tomorrow, March 25 through March 31).

This one doesn't really make sense to me.  Most sellers that aren't doing .99 auction format aren't going to really do it because of a promo because the risk on say a $50 item is, well maybe $25, so the listing fee savings isn't worth the risk.

Thus the only sellers that will benefit are the ones that are essentially already selling at .99 and they'll save 14 cents if they are non media and 9 if they are media sellers.

So this one has been a big yawner for sellers.  I'm not sure what eBay's trying to do here, but if it's drive more .99NR product or help existing .99NR sellers, it misses both targets.

March 22, 2008

eBay releases Seller Dashboard (lite) for tracking those DSRs...

It's alive!

Sellers were a little perplexed when the seller dashboard didn't go live when Lorrie's post said it would, but starting very late Friday night and into Saturday, it has appeared for most sellers.  To find it as a seller, login to eBay and go to My Ebay, then My Account, "Seller Dashboard".

Not every reader is a large seller and I'm sure there's a lot of curiosity around what this looks likes as DSRs are such a hot topic with the community so I thought you may enjoy a little walk through.

Keep in mind this is what eBay is calling the lite version of the dashboard and more is coming in May.

Here's a screen shot of what it looks like for a real live titanium powerseller.

Seller_dashboard_2

I've marked up this screen shot to highlight some things:

  • First, I masked the seller's user ID.
  • Then in box 1 I wanted to highlight how this works.  What you do is select the criteria you want to measure yourself against (5%/15%)
  • When you do that in box 1, box 2 changes to tell you if you are a powerseller and also if you can meet the X% criteria selected in box1.
  • Finally in box 3 is the meat and potatoes of this whole thing.  The 30-day trailing average (it updates daily) and how you stack up against the requirements.

In this example, the seller is clearly making the 5% discount tier and now thanks to this 30-day data, sellers can start to change some things and test to see if the 30-day average starts going up or down based on their changes.

So for example, with this seller we now have a much clearer path to the 15% discount.  If we can work and get the shipping time and charges DSRs up .1 then we can get there.

Why do/should sellers care about DSRs?

The 5+15% discounts in the US are pretty widely known, but now that BestMatch is live, we're seeing conversion rates pop as much as 15%-30% for those sellers that are being advantaged.  One point I've been making to some sellers that say: "well I'm going to stay at a 4.5 and not really be advantaged or disadvantaged and keep charging high $ rates." is that in a world where sellers are being advantaged, if you are not being advantaged that in itself can effectively be a disadvantage.

For example, let's say you are selling shoes and are at a 4.6, but some of your larger competitors are at a 4.8.  It's not only possible, but probably that you are now pushed off the front page of listings even if you have a high saturation strategy.  Start doing some searching with BM selected and you'll see what I mean. 

Think of it this way:

  • Page 1-2 of BM search results - advantaged sellers
  • Page 3-5 - sellers that are neither advantaged or disadvantaged
  • page 6+ - welcome to disadvantage-ville!

The moral of this story is sellers that take selling on eBay seriously need to work to get to the 5% level short-term and long-term think about what it takes to get to 15%.  If you don't you can say hello to page 4 and maybe even page 6.

How to improve your DSRs

In Mid Feb, we ran a webinar on DSRs and came up with 11 best practices here.   One thing sellers have been constantly leaving in the blog feedback is that eBay wants them to do free shipping but eBay isn't paying for it.

Well what these folks aren't listening to is that we keep saying that our data says that sure cost does play a roll, but what's equally important and sometimes more important are options (do you offer combined shipping,expedited shipping?) and communication.

With some tweaks to communication alone we've been able to move seller's 30day DSRs .1-.3, so it's more about setting expectations and living up to them vs. giving away shipping free.

To those readers who hate DSRs

Everytime I write about DSRs I get about 10 comments from sellers (most of them the leaders of the recent boycott) that fundamentally argue the system is flawed, evil and the work of satan.  Their argument goes something like this:

"eBay tells buyers that 4 is good, but then they require sellers to be a 4.5 which is above good.  Why does eBay require sellers to be better than what they are telling the buyers?"

I'm being kind here, there's usually some reference to communism, a class action lawsuit or some such kind of thing.

This makes me think back to one of my first engineering classes at the wonderful University of South Carolina (go Gamecocks!).  This was a weeder class and super hard.  I was really proud on one of the first tests to get a 95, but somewhat perplexed to see the grade marked with a 'B'.  The professor went on to explain that he was free by the university to grade on a curve and according to the bell curve, enough fellow students did better than I did such that I was now in the 'second quartile' and a B.  Well I can tell you that got my attention and I certainly started to strive to not only get above the 'A' rank which is usually a 93, but to get in the top quartile of my fellow students.

This is exactly what eBay is doing to sellers.  Sure they are telling buyers that 4 is good and 5 is excellent.  Then what they are doing is putting all of the sellers in a distribution curve and it turns out that when you do that, you end up with the buckets that Brian Burke outlined a long time ago

So there really is no correlation to what ebay tells the buyer and where they draw the lines for advantage/disadvantage/carrots/sticks, what matters is where you rank against OTHER SELLERs.

Sellers that are stuck on this aspect of DSRs need to move on or be forever relegated to page 6 (and really what's the point at that point?).

Finally a message for eBay (need seller's help here too - call your TSAMs!!!)
While the seller dashboard is a neat app and give sellers some new data, we believe that third parties like ChannelAdvisor could do some innovative things with this data, but alas eBay has not made it available via any API.  We have literally thousands of sellers using our free DSRWatch utility, and would love to add some advanced charting/trending/alerting around the 30-day data, but eBay has this data locked up in it's servers and isn't providing access to anyone but eBay.

Disclosure for SeekingAlpha: I am long Google.


March 20, 2008

Busy eBay news day!

The last couple of days have been very busy for eBay news. Here's a little roundup:

  • eBay announced what I think is the first shockwave from the major Meg/Donahoe/Rajiv/Cobb/Norrington news earlier this year.  In the process they have eliminated 125 jobs.  Reading some of the news, it sounds like the Paypal+eBay customer service groups have been combined and some other global operations are being horizontal-ized vs. a more vertical/geo org.
  • Lorrie Norrington announced via the AB that:
    • The ESPP is live
    • The seller dashboard (light version) is out with the full meal-deal coming in May.  The light version will tell you your 30-day DSRs and if you're being advantaged or not.
    • They are making some changes to UPI and feedback to help address seller's concerns on the coming 'sellers can't leave negs' change to feedback
  • And last but certainly not least, eBay UK announced they are doubling down on the FVF discounts in March.  In the highest tier, sellers can get 80% of their FVF's back!  That's pretty motivational.  I'd have to do the math, but that could essentially fund free shipping for most items.  Tamebay (awesome UK eBay blog) coverage is here.

Conclusion on the last two bullets: eBay continues to be serious about not only listening to sellers, but taking action and driving the changes (with carrots and sticks) they view are strategic to the health of the marketplace.

March 19, 2008

The benefits of being a multi-channel seller

Over at the ChannelAdvisor corporate blog, David Spitz has a great article based on some data our business intelligence team has been working on. 

We've long believed that the most healthy merchant has a diversified portfolio of ecommerce channels that allow them to easily move different types of products with different goals.  Want the top price and lowest channel cost?  Use your website.  Want to turn inventory to cash?  eBay is king.  Have some very deep sku's you have a great price on?  Overstock. Do you have some 30 day old inventory that's not moving on your website? Amazon-it!

Well now we have enough data to quantitatively prove that multi-channel sellers are growing much faster than the single channel (usually eBay) seller.  Dave reports that multi-channel sellers that have been multi-channel since 06 are growing 220% faster than single-channel.  Newly multi-channel sellers (07) are growing 42% faster than single channel sellers.

Even with eBay showing signs of life, the data couldn't be clearer that if you are a single channel seller, you need to go multi-channel ASAP if you want to grow your business at the same pace of e-commerce.

If you want to learn more, we do have our Catalyst conference coming April 1-3 where you can come hear directly from eBay, Amazon, Facebook, Overstock and other channels, but we can help you put together a 2008 multi-channel strategy that can easily get you going for the Q4 holidays. 

It's important to note that Catalyst is not for CA customers only, but we invite anyone in the industry that's interested in the topic of multi-channel ecommerce selling to come on down and participate in the discussion.  It's definitely not a sales event either so there is no pressure to look at CA solutions.

We're going to have some big announcements that we think will further define the brave new world of multiple online e-commerce channels and I look forward to seeing everyone there!

March 17, 2008

Episode II of the Adventures of Tank Stikman!

Note to feed readers this post contains an embedded video you will need to click through to see.

eBay clicks CJ/VCLK to the curb with ePN.

Today eBay flexed its muscles and moved its entire affiliate program to what looks like an internally developed system called the eBay Partner Network (ePN).

Commission Junction (CJ) the affiliate component of ValueClick(VCLK) has long touted eBay as its largest customer.  I noticed the stock down a little bit today, but I'm guessing that Wall St. hasn't pieced all of this together yet.

What's worse for CJ/VCLK are these three scenarios:

  1. Emboldened by eBay's ease of leaving, CJ sees other large publishers leave the system.
  2. What if eBay decides to compete directly with CJ and offer other publishers into the eBay Partner Network?
  3. I've often wondered when Amazon will decouple it's amazing affiliate (associate in their lingo) system from Amazon and offer it as a stand-alone service, within the family of Amazon Services offerings (S3, FBA, M@, etc.)

At ChannelAdvisor, we don't have a direct affiliate offering, but we are definitely seeing the trend where our retailer customers would prefer to go direct with their largest affiliates and I think what we're seeing here is the beginning of a lot of changes in the world of affiliates.


SeekingAlpha Disclosure: I am long Google (GOOG).

March 13, 2008

Q1 data is telling us that the eBay changes are....

Working!  Since mid 2004, eBay datapoints have been painfully and irreversibly slowing.  Listings growth, GMV growth and active buyer growth.

Unless you've been living under a rock, you know that eBay has started rolling out the changes they announced back in January throughout Q1.

On Feb 20, gallery was set free and the new fees came into effect.

March 3rd, eBay rolled BestMatch as the default search. 

The results have been very profound, measurable and positive.  The much covered 'boycott' didn't cause any decrease in listings or buyer activity that we could see (I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying that, but there it is folks.).

First on Feb 20, conversion rates started a nice climb - especially for those sellers in the media categories that previously couldn't justify gallery.  By our calculations many media sellers saw conversions increase 2-5%.

Then the media+fixed priced sellers started listing a little bit more.  That saw some increased sales, and then sellers increased listings some more and that cycle is still continuing.

Then on March 3rd when eBay rolled BestMatch we saw an even larger and more across-the-board conversion bump.  We've got some sellers seeing a 10-20% increase in conversions.  I haven't seen anything this dramatically positive on eBay in a LOOOOOONGGGG time.

If you're still with me, listings are up, conversions are up and that means..... yep, GMV is up nicely and so far it's continuing its upward path.

As sellers see the results, they will tend to continue to list more (to balance conversions) and if the conversion rates hold, we'll see even more GMV coming out of the system.

At ChannelAdvisor we provide our customers with lots of real-time data on their sales and other vital stats and it allows them to react quickly so they tend to be ahead of the curve.  As the long-tail of eBay sellers see their eBay bills and start doing the math, they also will start to adjust their listings volume.

The much maligned DSRs are working.  Once BestMatch kicked in, we saw the difference between seller exposure really spread out dramatically. Since the S+H cost DSR is usually the lowest, it's the one that tends to key seller advantaging/disadvantaging.  When sellers heard the 5%/15% discounts, they did the math and for most it didn't make sense to change their S+H prices.  But now when sellers see they are losing share/conversions due to poor S+H prices/ratings, sellers are starting to test different communication practices and look for ways to lower S+H fees.  If eBay's data that buyers don't like eBay's S+H, then the focus on S+H prices and practices should be dynamite for the ecosystem.

For the first time in years, I'm starting to see a light at the end of the dark eBay tunnel we've been in.  I'm interested to see when these trend plateau's out and if eBay will turn the crank again on fees, lowering listings and raising FVFs.  Also we still don't have Finding 2.0 or the feedback changes out yet so there are two other big changes out there waiting to hit the system.

It's going to be interesting to see how Q1 came out for eBay - particularly on the y/y GMV growth which I think should look pretty good.  I'm also very curious to see if there are any signs of life in the active buyer data that eBay typically reports.

Usually analysts ask if these positive eBay indications mean bad news for Amazon.  We don't see any slow down there so I don't think so, it's not always a zero sum game at the seller GMV level and while eBay is perking up it's going to take some time for it to have any impact on Amazon's incredible momentum.

Disclosure: I am long google.
(Note: eBay Strategies is being picked up by Seeking Alpha now so this is required.)

March 06, 2008

eBay's surveying like crazy and an anecdotal story...

I've received many reports about recent eBay surveying activity that is very interesting.

At Duke recently, eBay paid students (I heard from the MBA folks there) $75 to take a survey. Evidently during the survey they asked many selling questions, specifically asking students what they thought sellers would do with "prominent competitive ads right on listing pages".  They also asked from a buyer perspective if the buyer would find this more or less helpful.

I'm sure 99% of things eBay surveys don't become reality, but this one was kind of scary sounding.  Let's hope it stays in the 'Survey says: Don't do it!!" bucket.

Then in Seattle, I've heard they are looking for the 'recent mom' demographic to do some buyer survey's.

Finally, I'm hearing from sellers that evidently Bain and Co (Donahoe+Meg's alma matter) is calling and doing in-depth Q+A (takes about an hr).  Bain won't identify who they are representing, but the questions are all things like:

"Which channel drives more margin for you?  eBay, Amazon or website?"

Most seller's think it's pretty obvious that eBay has retained B+C to do some kind of strategic analysis on what eBay should do about Amazon.

Finally, an anecdotal story. (Disclaimer: Yes I know this is one random person, but that's the point).

About 2yrs ago, I decided to stop telling people that at ChannelAdvisor we help seller's sell on eBay because I was always hit with some sad tale of fraud.  Given all the changes eBay is making, I've been testing the waters recently to see what the vibe is out there again.

I rented a car earlier in the week and upon seeing the company name on my CC, the very nice rental car lady asked me what we do and I gave her the 'we help people sell on eBay' line.  I could tell the way her eyes popped and nose flared that I was in for an eBay story.

Turns out she bought one time on eBay.  She purchased some expensive perfume at a 10% discount and when it arrived it was a bad knock off.  She said she'll, "never buy anything on eBay again - it's all fakes and frauds."  She was pretty intense on this last part and I tried to break the ice by saying, "oh come on Marilu, we need you back." and she reiterated, "no, never ever again - I learned my lesson."  Where are the active buyers going?  If you talk to enough 'people on the street', you quickly realize there are a LOT of Marilu's out there and they seem to outnumber the people I meet that like buying on eBay 2:1.

While I applaud the increasingly bold changes eBay has taken on the Finding and Fees, I'm still worried that only the tip of the fraud/trust iceberg has been addressed so far.

Major bummer for the eBay seller community (filed under eBay Brain Drain).

I heard about this on my way out of the IMA conference and was majorly bummed about the latest eBay Brain Drain.

Matt Ledwidth, eBay's Director of Top Seller Development, is leaving eBay.

I first met Matt when he was at half.com way back in 99.  We got along great with those guys and started working with them to help sellers on Half.  After 2000 when eBay acquired Half, Matt moved over to the since disbanded category management team where he ran media for a long time.  3-4yrs ago when eBay started to focus on growing sellers with the TSAM program, Matt put 110% of his energy into that effort.

At eBay Lives for the past 3yrs Matt has run a series of panels around top seller best practices that are widely viewed by attendees as the best advanced content.

It's been a true honor to know Matt and work closely with him over the last 9yrs.  Never has he waivered in his passion and conviction for doing everything possible to make sellers successful (even before it was cool@eBay).  I can definitely say that everyone at ChannelAdvisor and the seller community is definitely going to miss him. 

Best of luck at your next gig Matt!