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December 12, 2008

Is eBay's strategy working?

In previous posts on this blog and in the press, I'm on the record pointing out many eBay issues that we see with DSRs, BestMatch/Finding, fraud, eBay's overall strategy, how they treat sellers, etc. Like everyone in the ecosystem I am very concerned about the future of eBay.

Yesterday, we saw an interesting datapoint I wanted to share.  Now it's one datapoint and I realize that, but it is a significant datapoint and could be an early signal that eBay's changes are working.

eBay: A mile wide and an inch deep.
For 8yrs+, ChannelAdvisor has been helping sellers of all sizes on eBay and we quickly learned that the eBay sweet-spot for sellers of any size is for wide (lots of SKUs), but not deep (lots of quantity of a single item).  Back in the day (2001-2007), we worked with eBay to bring some manufacturers and retailers on the site and also with larger powersellers to test the depth of the platform.  We've had IBM sell hundreds of laptops, Motorola sell hundreds of handsets, and shoe sellers sell hundreds of great-priced shoes, etc.  While that sounds interesting, it's usually just a blip out of the total inventory available.

In fact most eBay sellers of scale ($2m/yr+) have to run a wholesale business as they buy in such large lots, they can only sell a small % on eBay so they end up wholesaling the rest.  Large manufacturers and retailers turn to 'jobbers' or liquidators to move volume.  Some of that product comes to eBay, but the bulk doesn't so there's a huge opportunity GMV out there of 'deep sku discounts'.

Companies like Overstock and smartbargains and liquidation.com fill some of the gaps there as well.

In retailer slang, it became well known that eBay is a mile wide and an inch deep.

Houston, we have a problem?!

Ok, back to today (December 12, 2008).  24x7x365 at ChannelAdvisor  we have 2-3 people on-call watching our production systems.  During the holidays we effectively double/triple that staff.  Aside from the obvious benefits from doing this, we are also able to see unusual trends and monitor them and react if needed.

Last night around 6pm (start of ecomm prime-time), we started getting some massiver alerts from our systems that there was some unusual volume.  One of our folks dug in and figured out what it was.  We had a single eBay listing that was selling at a rate of one every 5-7 seconds on average, but at peak we were seeing several per second.

The system was keeping up, but it was actually causing some delays in the eBay servers (we were able to spread this around and avoid any latency).

eBay - no longer an inch deep?
It turns out that we have a customer, webbestdeals, that had an item selected by eBay for their new deal of the day program (you can read more about it here - clear your cookies if you don't see it).  The item is a Logitech Harmony Advanced remote contorl - these are pretty popular and the low price on the internet is $40-50.  This seller has it with free shipping for $29.99 - a SICK DEAL! (In fact, I believe the listing was hit on many of the popular sickdeal/fatwallet type sites as well).

As of this writing they've sold over 6000 of these and are on pace to hit 9-10k easily.  At 6000 by $30 that's a whopping $180k in a listing. Sure there are cars and stuff that have achieved that, but this is 6000, $30 transactions in a 24hr period.  click on 'purchases' if you don't believe me!

So while this is one datapoint, it is interesting to think about the implications.  As we enter this tough economic climate, I'm sure there will be a LOT of inventory that needs to be liquidated.  Historically a small % of this has made it to eBay.  Imagine if eBay could take this model and scale it.  There could be some pretty big opportunities out there with sellers of any size (webbestdeals is titanium PS, but not a 'diamond'/brand) that could bring some deep gmv to the 'new, deeper, eBay.'

A word of caution to my Wall St. friends
This reminded me that many of the analysts on Wall St. still try to calculate what's going to happen at eBay based on listings data.  They frequently go to the browse all category page and count the listings.  Then they look at completed listings to get an idea of conversions.  In most of these listings historically the quantity is 1 or close it (dutch auctions, fp7 and others allow multi-quantity listings, but they were rare).

Well FP30 totally ruins that model.  First of all you now have lots of 30-day listings out there with more and more quantity 'hidden' behind them.  Take the example above.  That would have probably been 9000 listings, now it's one listing, quant=9000.

Also, the conversion data is all wacky now too.  The reason why is the fp30 doesn't show up in completed listings until it's life is over or it is sold out.  So in the above example, you could have 30 days (you wouldn't 'see' until jan) before this listing shows in completed listings. Also, it only shows as 'one sold completed item' in completed search.

To see each transaction, you'd have to dig into the listing and get into 'completed sales'.

The bottom line is eBay is driving FP30 adoption HARD by increasing the mix of fp30 in search results (50% in most cases) and thus there are a material number of fp30's out there with a material quantity behind them and the old listing-count scheme is largely blind to all this activity.

In conclusion...
Yes it's one item and one datapoint, but I have to say I'm surprised and impressed that we're finally seeing eBay address the 'depth' problem.  eBay Strategies readers, what are your thoughts?  One-time anomoly, glimmer of hope, turnaround is working or rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic?

SeekingAlpha disclosure: I am long google and amazon.



December 02, 2008

Holiday gift from ChannelAdvisor - save 20%+ with these exclusive online deals from select customers

This year we were brainstorming about what we would do as far as a virtual holiday card or something like that and we realized that in this economic climate, what everyone wants is to save money.  So we contacted some of our customers, collected some great deals they were willing to offer and put them together in a RichCatalog.  


The result is here.  If you want to forward this on to friends, you can use the shorter URL: http://tinurl.com/ca-holiday.

As a big thanks to eBay Strategies readers, I wanted to make sure you guys got a chance to take advantage of these great deals and I hope you find something that tickles your fancy at a great price!

ChannelAdvisor BlackFriday and CyberMonday results are in!

We just issued a press release detailing our BF (BlackFriday) and CM (CyberMonday) results here and I wanted to share some highlights and add some detail around our marketplace results for eBay Strategies readers.


One caveat is that these results are for our total business which includes a LOT of customer additions over the year which definitely skews things.  We'll have same-store-sales out shortly for November and I'll share some interesting stats we see there.

CyberMonday and eBay
eBay USA had a strong CM for us - up 50% y/y.  What's really interesting is we're able to separate out the different formats and auctions are down 8%y/y and fixed-price (includes stores) are up a whopping 139% (together they yield the 50% increase).  For ChannelAdvisor's customers, fixed-price is rapidly approaching 2X of auctions.

Another interesting point on eBay - things were actually kind of sluggish on BF, up only 30% y/y, so we are seeing a material acceleration in that short period.  This is NOT the case with any other channel, they ramped up to a strong y/y growth on BF and then held it on CM whereas eBay ramped up into CM.

I'd hazard a guess there are a couple of trends at play:
  • eBay is really pouring on the marketing right now (coupons, radio, ms-cashback, paid-search, etc).
  • We're hearing that offline and some online retailers have such low inventories due to economic concerns that many items you wouldn't think would be hard to find are very hard to find.  Wii/xbox/ps3 software, many top selling toys and electronics could be in short supply offline+online as we get deeper into December.  If true, that will very much play to eBay's advantage.
  • For fun, I keep an eBay search on twitter going during the day on a second monitor and you many stories about first time users, finding hard to find items, etc.  This is a neat way to keep a 'pulse' on what's going on.
ASPs on eBay are down more than other channels. I suspect that's a consumer mix issue vs. some price compression.

CyberMonday and Amazon
No matter how you slice it, Amazon is killing it this holiday season.  I don't have any visibility into their media categories (book, music, dvd), but CE, games, home and garden, sports, jewelry, apparel, you name it - it is on fire.  I suspect we'll look back in 1-2yrs and realize that 08 is the year Amazon went from a book store to a full-fledged dept store.

Amazon accelerated on BF to a 230% growth rate and has held there through CyberMonday.  The inventory shortages I mentioned in the eBay section will definitely benefit Amazon's proMerchants as well.  Amazon is very cleverly sending notes to merchants notifying them of sku's that are in demand that they have sold before and proactively urging them to stock the virtual shelves.

Amazon also has a ton of interesting promotions that get a good bit of consumer buzz

What will be the peak this year?
Usually we see continued growth into the next couple of Mondays (12/8 and 12/15 this year) - that some call GreenMondays - and we'll continue to report what we see.  It will be interesting to see where things hit their zenith this year and if my theory on eBay/Amazon benefiting from short inventory levels plays out or not. 

Stay tuned and if you have any questions or observations - hit the comments.


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